Gentlemen,

Allow me to welcome you to our very share of the Eden in the microworld, the colonial jewel, the Principality of Corcovado.

San Idelfonso has been an important city for our community, it has been witness of battles since the days of the Empire of San Martin, back then our beloved principality was known as the Santa Gertrudis colony; we have evolved though the years and became the Confederate State of Santa Gertrudis and after the Treaty of Loredo, we found the Principality of Corcovado.

This town, houses the vacation residence of His Majesty, the Emperor of Stormark, among others; and has the unique geographical position for commercial exchange and military strategic positioning.

This, my good friends, is the best place to meet and I am honoured by your visit.

Bienvenidos!!!

Thank you for the warm welcome, your Highness!

As the representative of Galatia, i declare myself present.

Representatives from the OTED:

Galatia - HIH Prince Enrique
Corcovado - HIH Prince Augusto
Santander - HG Duc Juergen


Invited guests:

Lord Jean Michel Leclerc des Montagnes
Jean Carmichael.

How is Jean Charmichael involved in all of this? I udnerstand Lord Leclerc, but... :wacko: i just need clarification.

And also, what is our current agenda? We should start to get a move on in this conference!

I was interested in supporting the idea, plus I'm shouting a lot about colonial rights. Hopefully that's why I'm invited and its not just a clerical error!!! :lol:

That is exactly why you were invited, my good friend, I have always thought of you as a brilliant person, I am sure you are an asset for this Conference.

Excellent. Your Highness,

Is there an agenda we're to follow at the moment?

Thank you for your welcome your Highness.

I would like propose the fusion of the Galatian Defense Force and Santander Defense Corps to a unit called OTEP Defense Corps.

Up to the contraire, they are the two Alexandrian Forces with real, deep and broad military capability.

Respectfully

It would be a blow to Galatia's proud military independence though Juergen.

Sorry, to contraire you - the proposition is HIH Enrique's brainchild and I push oooooooooonly for a blessing.

Respectfully

I have no objections on it Your Grace, and perhaps leaving Corcovado as it is would be better.

Corcovado has one Naval Base Station and has been guarded by the Rio Grande Rangers for a long time now, I think it would be good to keep it that way.

And to Your Highness, I don't have an agenda, feel free to draft one if you wish.

I had in mind the creation of a OTED Force for a while. I don't think it would deliver a blow to the GDF.

A Sample agenda (Rough)

I. Establishment of the Overseas Imperial Council
a. Uniting Document/Constitution etc
b. Vote

II. First bills proposed, introduced and voted on.

The Imperial Parliament is currently debating whether to give the colonies provincial status. If this goes through, the establishment of an OTED Council would be short lived. Should we wait until after Parliament votes?

Thank you very much for the News - I can only say “the active citizens' participation level” (maybe we have too much) will be neutralized by amateur politicians, day-dreamers ......

It will be wise to stop the conference and watch the TV. I don't like to get depressed.

In my Mothertongue we say : Was Du mit den Haenden erstellst, macht ein anderer mit seinem Hinterteil kaput.

Respectfully

The bill comes off as random in my opinion. Galatia has never expressed its intention to become a Province of our Empire.

Its simply ridiculous.

I think we should let our Parliament Minister to move against this, Corcovado is not interested in becoming a province, the same happens with Galatia and I most certain His Grace would agree with Santander.

Who is representing us and who else is in the Parliament, so that we can talk to and express our opinions?

In the meanwhile, I propose we follow on our agenda.

Lords and Gentlemen, I agree with you that the colonies should not become provinces and have stated in the debate that this is my belief, lest we have a two tier system of provinces with the original and big ones against the small former colonies. Yet, I am just one man speaking against the tide in Parliament and as such I can't do anything put preach to stubborn men about the lunacy of the idea. I can't induce a whip on the other member of my party because I know he is a sensible man who has weighed up what he believes to be correct and is voting accordingly; as a man of liberal ideals it would be absurd for me to abandon them in Parliament by becoming authoritarian in my party.

I am becoming more and more aware of the dark side of our parliament, they are outlasted their usefulness by killing the time and warming their seats. Full of conflicting wishes and desires, most of them don’t know what they really have to do. They change their minds back - forth - left - right - back … and inconsistency is the rule.

We have all sorts of people in our Empire, some are sincere and understand the life in collectivity, but a lot of our citizens are totally lost and mixed up.

These are the men who believe in their indispensability for the Empire and I can only say “if God exists, then He has certainly a sense of humour".

Respectfully

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Article 2.
The Overseas territory of Santander shall be, subject to Article 5, be granted full provincehood of the Empire of the Alexandrians and admitted to the Spanish Sector.

Article 3.
The Overseas territory of Galatia shall be, subject to Article 5, be granted full provincehood of the Empire of the Alexandrians and shall become the founding member of the German Sector.

Article 4.
The Overseas territory of Corcovado shall be, subject to Article 5, be merged into the province of San Martian
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Proposition by francotorres

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Article 4.
The Overseas territory of Corcovado shall be, subject to Article 5, be merged into the province of San Martian
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Proposition by francotorres

Juergen,

I resent your remarks. I am in Parliament fighting tooth and nail for the democratic representation of the colonies in these new electoral laws and to be described as just someone who is feathering my hat and warming my seat in that institution is insulting to what I'm doing. I'm not even the Member for OTED in the Parliament and yet this is the thanks I get from a colonial governor? It is deeply insulting Juergen.

The OTED Bill only makes you a province if a referendum on the issue is successful in a particular colony. That is what the law will become if the bill is passed.

Firstly, allow me to say a few words before this discussion gets our of hands.

No one is insulting you, Honorable member of Parliament. As Governors and Protectors of our lands we feel that it is important that we present our feelings towards the bill. This bill not only comes off as random but as an insult to the governors and rulers of overseas territories here in Alexandria.

It is very insulting in fact, because the bill originates from our very own MP. Unexperienced and unknowing that the Overseas territories wish to keep the status quo. Whats far more insulting is that fact that the MP did not even state his intentions on issueing a bill (or introducing one for that matter) on the issue of colonies and overseas territories. No poll or indirect consultation ever took place before this bill was submitted to the hopper.

respectfully,

First of all, I am sure His Grace was not referring to your person Lord Carmichael, I am sure he is talking about the ones that are only causing trouble and changing their minds so easily and without even knowing the needs and desires of the people they say they represent.


And it completely unacceptable to have a member of Parliament who thinks he is legislating but doesn't even know the names of the places in our Empire!!!

There has never been a Province of San Martian!!!
The Overseas Territory of Corcovado!!!!????
He should know better than that!!!

It is the PRINCIPALITY OF CORCOVADO and I am not going to let this amataur politician take it to merge it to San Martin, it has been independent from San Martin for ages it is not going back period!!!

Last time I checked I wasn't a Lord, Your Highness. Though Lord Carmichael has a nice ring to it. ;)

John,

Be assured I am not referring to your person - parole de legionnaire.

You are right Lord John sounds wonderfull.

Respectfully

Dear sirs,

Although not invited, i would like to make a short intervention.

I neither am keeping my seat warm and have given it my best effort to have a coherent electoral reform bill. In fact, the consolidated bill is from my hand.

Together with my party colleague, mr. Carmichael, I am in agreement that the people of the colonies need to be represented in the Imperial Parliament.

However, in my humble opinion it is the hard case for colonial rights that has spurred a proposal to make of the colonies provinces.
I admit, it might be a perverse effect.

Perhaps the governors should issue a joint statement in which they express their view on how the people of the colonies should be represented in the Imperial Parliament, whether there is need for a "special" representative for the OTED, what should or could be the role of the Council of Governors in advising the Imperial Parliament on colonial matters, and ultimately, whether the colonies would like provincial status, fully aware of the consequences this choice might have on other issues.

I believe that many members of parliament would appreciate such a statement and would take it into account in finalising the electoral reform.

I apologize for the intrusion,

Yours sincerely,

The Principality of Corcovado, Santander and Galatia are IMPERIAL OVERSEA TERRITORIES - please forget the qualification COLONY.

Respectfully

Juergen,

I hope that the error in terminology is not the ONLY thing that you and the governors have remembered.

Yours sincerely,

I think that the joint statement idea is not a bad one.

We should include that on the agenda.

"Sheed no tears until seeing the coffin".

Respectfully

I would like to shed some light into this matter because it does spike me the fact that we have members of the Imperial Parliament (which by the way are all welcomed to suggest ideas) here criticizing the soon to be members of the Overseas Territory Council. Please remember that the Overseas Territory Council, IF it does take afoot it will not govern the overseas territories because thats simply His Imperial Majesty's job, which he has entrusted to the Governors, Dukes and Princes appointed by His Imperial Majesty to fullfill the job (that being if there are no governors).

I would like to shed some light into that and would also recommend that members of the Imperial Parliament respect and honor the opinions of the respective administrators of these overseas territories. Again, i'm personally welcoming ideas, and suggestions. I felt that i needed to shed some light on the matter, since this is starting to turn into a bitter fight between Administrators and the honorable members of the Imperial Parliament.

respectfully,

Friends, Distinguised Governors:

Do we find the OTER bill in support of the overseas territories? I'd like to know your opinions on the bill if possible. Because i find it derailing the conversation of establishing an overseas territorial council. If we're in support (if you are, I've voiced my personal opposition to it) then let us proceed to exit and close the conference. If we are in opposition, then i suggest you voice your concerns and your opposition to our 'so-called' representative.

respectfully,

One thing is becoming clear to me : The confrontations between the Imperial governors and our self styled representative brings new dark clouds to an already overcast sky. I don’t want do deal with this breed of pseudo-innocent whose attention is directed mainly toward the maintaining of a saintly self-image.

Too much talking, petty fights, rivalry and slander; I am beyond all these.

Respectfully

Thank you Sir Juergen, your feelings are duly noted. Your Highness?

respectfully,