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Title: DEBATE: Crimes against the Empire Act, 2005


Emperor Edgard II - May 27, 2005 01:38 PM (GMT)
Our nation needs to begin developing a system of laws, so I think this would be a good start:
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Section 1
This act may be cited as the Crimes Against the Empire Act, 2005.

Section 2
1. A person who, being a citizen of the Empire, levies war against the Empire, adheres to its enemies, gives them aid or comfort or, knowing that one is going to or is currently doing the previous actions and not informing the government of the same shall be guilty of a crime called Treason.

2. Treason is a Class A Felony.

Section 3
1. A person who shall do any act or thing to overthrow the Constitution of the Empire by revolution or sabotage or to overthrow by force or violence the duly established government of the Empire or, knowing that another person is going to or currently is committing the previous acts, does not inform the government of such, shall be guilty of a crime called Treachery.

2. Treachery is a Class A Felony.

Section 4
1. Any person who carries out an act to destroy any thing, substance or material that is used, or intended to be used, for the defense of the Empire, or for the maintenance of the internal security and public order therein or, knowing that another person is going to or currently is committing the previous acts, does not inform the government of such, shall be guilty of a crime called Sabotage.

2. Sabotage is a Class B Felony.

Section 5
1. Any person who, with the intention of causing violence or creating public disorder or public disturbance, says, writes, prints, utters or publishes any words to bring the Estates-General or any court of law into such contempt that they may not be able to levy the powers necessary to fulfill their tasks; to excite the citizens of the Empire to attempt to procure the alteration, otherwise than by lawful means, of any matter established by law of the Empire; or, knowing that another person is going to or currently is committing the previous acts, does not inform the government of such shall be guilty of a crime called Subversion of the Government of the Empire.

2. Subversion of the Government of the Empire is a Class B or C Felony, depending on the court's opinion of the nature of the offense.

Section 6
1. Any person who, with an intent prejudicial to the safety or defense of the Empire gives up any classified information to a foreign power or anyone not having a classification to view such information shall be guilty of a crime called Espionage.

2. Espionage is a Class A Felony.

Section 7
1. Any person who, being a citizen of the Empire, during a time of declared war, says or does anything to undermine the war effort shall be guilty of a crime called Sedition.

2. Sedition is a Class D Felony.

Section 8
1. This act shall enter into effect on the day it receives Imperial Assent.

Jacques Gordon - May 27, 2005 03:58 PM (GMT)
M. Speaker,

This Act shall hail the beginning of a Code of Justice for the Empire, something which was on my agenda. A nation must have laws to ensure the well-being of its citizens, and a safe, organized method of justice. I respectfully urge this esteemed body to pass this Act.

Thank you.

Jean Michel Leclerc - May 27, 2005 08:06 PM (GMT)
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Section 2
1. A person who, being a citizen of the Empire, levies war against the Empire, adheres to its enemies, gives them aid or comfort or, knowing that one is going to or is currently doing the previous actions and not informing the government of the same shall be guilty of a crime called Treason.


Impedes freedom of expression. I should be able to to sympathise with our enemies if i feel that our military actions as a country against them are are unjust. Technically this section would mean a peaceful protest by citizens could be read as treason.

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Section 3
1. A person who shall do any act or thing to overthrow the Constitution of the Empire by revolution or sabotage


Define revolution here. I could demand revolutionary changes to the constitution in a peaceful manner and it could be read as treachery. Revolution can be just about any kind of major change; peaceful or otherwise.

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Section 7
1. Any person who, being a citizen of the Empire, during a time of declared war, says or does anything to undermine the war effort shall be guilty of a crime called Sedition


This again sounds like a potential undermining of human liberty. You will have to define more clearly what you mean by someone 'undermining the war effort'; would protest qualify for such a charge?


Emperor Edgard II - May 31, 2005 01:53 PM (GMT)
I agree with the objections on Sections 3 and 7 - a stronger definition can be used for the terms "revolution" and "undermining the war effort".

However, Section 2 is clear and I would like to keep it as it is. Anyone who wishes to adhere to the enemies of the Empire is a traitor, it doesn't get any simpler.

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ad·here
v. ad·hered, ad·her·ing, ad·heres
v. intr.
To stick fast by or as if by suction or glue.
To remain devoted to or be in support of something: adhered to her beliefs.
To carry out a plan, scheme, or operation without deviation: We will adhere to our plan.


Jean Michel Leclerc - June 1, 2005 09:18 PM (GMT)
Not if they think that the Empire is in the wrong. Technically this rule impedes my right to protest.

HIH Prince Enrique Portela - June 3, 2005 11:13 AM (GMT)
That would be true. Lets fix it and then motion to vote.

Jean Michel Leclerc - June 3, 2005 04:21 PM (GMT)
I don't know how to word it but it should basically say that you cannot be involved in any collusion militarily or financially with the enemy. Therefore the emphasis lies on whether you actually participate in something against the empire in a physical manner - such as the provision of military support or financial support - rather than superficial support for your enemies (protest etc).

Emperor Edgard II - June 3, 2005 07:54 PM (GMT)
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Article VII [Expression]

(1) No one shall require prior permission to publish thoughts or opinions through the press, without prejudice to the responsibility of every person under the law.
(2) Rules concerning radio and television shall be laid down by Act of the Estates-General and Imperial Decree. There shall be no prior supervision of the content of a radio or television broadcast.
(3) No one shall be required to submit thoughts or opinions for prior approval in order to disseminate them by means other than those mentioned in the preceding paragraphs, without prejudice to the responsibility of every person under the law. The holding of performances open to young persons may be regulated by Act of the Estates-General in order to protect good morals.
(4) The preceding paragraphs do not apply to commercial advertising.

Article VIII [Association]
The right of association shall be recognized. This right may be restricted by Act of the Estates-General or Imperial Decree in the interest of public order.

Article IX [Assembly]

(1) The right of assembly and demonstration shall be recognized, without prejudice to the responsibility of everyone under the law.
(2) Rules to protect health, in the interest of traffic and to combat or prevent disorders may be laid down by Act of the Estates-General or Imperial Decree.


The Constitution already guarantees your right to protest! ;)




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