Debate may begin.

I think I have a few issues, Primerally about the punishments. Its an important act, but I don't think I agree outright with it.

well said. i am in accord with this act.

PM.Poiters.For Alexandria!

Why should the Emperor or the PM decide when it can be made public if they are not the PO?

Art 3. Appears to contradict its self

Punishments in Art. 5, Art. 6, Art. 7 seem to harsh

Could a court order be used to get access to the site and what is being said?

The police should be able to obtain one, like a search warrent. Not ordenary people though

Faithfully,

i'm all for it. i guess it can work.

PM.Poiters. Serving Alexandria.

Can someone please draft ammendments for Search warrents.

Also what are peoples opinions on the punnishments?

I insist that the punishments remain - we have to be tough, because the information that is usually on these forums are national security information that cannot and should not be leaked.

We have to understand that we have to remain strong and offer harsh punishments for such traitors and leakers but I agree with the court orders that should be included although i think that it's already implied in the constitution or not?

i must say, this man is right. we must be tought against foreigners especially those who have threatened and hacked into alexandria. what Mr. frias is saying i will agree and support it simeply because we must remain strict about all this and especially during times of war.

PM.Poiters. Serving Alexandria.

At least make it a punishment up to and place a minimum sentece of somthing less severe.

Faithfully,

I have recieved a comment which I have been asked to post.

Faithfully,

Mr. Speaker,

Again this is the perfect chance for the opposition-liberal establishment of this country to tout the whole "WE WANT TO SEE EVERYTHING" kind of deal.

What Monsieur Alexandrie is trying to do here is to sensationalize a perfectly sane and good piece of legislation that should help protect the national security of the nation. This will also impact the private forums of the imperial family, who as their residence, should be safeguarded as well. Alexandre is intruding on the rights of other people though this while touting his little agenda for republicanism which is sad i might add because our Emperor is a great and wise leader. To address these issues, I have agreed that the courts should be able to have power to subponea threads and such. In fact, I propose that we add a clause that every nine months, classified documents that can be released should be declasified and released to the archives to be seen by the public.

This can threaten basic functions of government - the government should have some wiggle room. Private discussions with foreign heads of states, private conversations among the members of the Imperial Family, private conversations among members of the Cabinet - privacy should be respcted in sensitive government issues such as foreign affairs and defense. if the emperor wants to talk privately with his advisors about more personal matters in his apartments he should be able to do so!

what monsieur alexandre wants to do is to make breaking and entering into provate forums completely legal in this country - so watch out everyone for your right to privacy. BIG RED BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU.

Monsieur James, I like your idea of establishing miuimum sentences, we can go with that. What do you suggest specifically?

I shall be drafting amendments and presenting them soon.

First of all I am going to state that I shall not take part in this little arguement between yourself and Monsieur Alexandrie, although I do not entirly agree with what you said but hey, Its a free country. That topic is closed now through and there will be no further discussion here. If you want to discuss it do so In Monsieur Alexandrie's thread.

On the Sentences I'm not too sure about the exact minimums, somthing ranging form 4 weeks imprisonment and/or unlimited fine perhaps?

to be honest, i am a bit sceptical about this gentlemen, simply because the sentencing would have to range from one side to another depending on the criminal. EX. Lets say that a foreigner hacked into someone else's account. he hacked into someone's account therefore his punishment should be severe according to what he/she did. my point being that, how exactly would we know how to enforce a severe punishment or a lesser punishment like maybe suspension?

M.Poiters.

exactly. If the Prime Minister would like to redraft the bill I shal withdraw it from Parliament at his request, otherwise we can begin debateing amendments

Parliamentarians -
to be honest i think that we should go ahead for the voting of the current status of the bill. i.e. vote for the bill with the amendments as they currently stand.

Poiters. MP for PN.

I second the motion

As no amendments have been made I vote NON

I support the idea of private discussions of the Cabinet. We dont want any traidor to have access to all what is said that can jeopardize Alexandrians security like deMontford. He started as a loyal citizen and than came back against us. Lets not think only in the hackers, keep in mind we can still have some spies in our nation disguised as respectfull citizens.

On the sentence issue, prison for a lon term (lets say a month) sound good to me.

If no further discussions noit ammendments are going to be made, I vote OUI

I vote DEFER. I wish to postpone voting to allow debate to continue. (I haven't had a chance to draft amendments and I want this bill to pass and not be challenged in courts)

I forgot about that option, I also DEFER

i vote OUI. the delegate from Asuncion is right. and i personally think that by having secret forums the emperor can be advised on matters such as what happened in alex. a few weeks back.

Poiters. MP for PN.

Debate is extended to allow for sentencing amendments.

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