Title: Latest News regarding the late Pope
Cardinal Morales - March 2, 2006 08:16 PM (GMT)
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| An Italian parliamentary commission has concluded that the former Soviet Union was behind the 1981 assassination attempt on the late Pope John Paul II. The head of the commission, Paolo Guzzanti, said it was sure beyond "reasonable doubt" that Soviet leaders ordered the shooting. Turkish national Mehmet Ali Agca, now 48, shot the Pope in St Peter's Square on 13 May 1981, hitting him four times. Agca never gave a motive, and mystery has continued to surround the shooting. A link between Agca and Bulgarian agents, and through them to the Soviet Union's KGB, has been the subject of speculation over the years. Soviet leaders "communicated this decision to the military secret service in order that it carry out the necessary operations". The commission said the Soviet Union felt the Pope was a danger because of his support for the democracy-linked Solidarity labour movement in Poland, his native country. The findings came from a commission set up to investigate Cold War secrets revealed by Vasili Mitrokhin, a KGB archivist who defected to the UK in 1992. |
AugustoBenavides - March 2, 2006 08:20 PM (GMT)
Strong accusations this are...
But it was as we all say "secreto a voces"
Jacques de Beaufort - March 2, 2006 09:32 PM (GMT)
Lol..es verdad Benavides.
I am glad they finally put it together!
Sincerely,
Jean Michel Leclerc - March 2, 2006 10:28 PM (GMT)
When in doubt blame the Soviets. How irritating.
Cardinal Morales - March 3, 2006 12:07 AM (GMT)
There can be no doubt. They murdered millions, why not the leader of the Catholic Church?
Emperor Edgard II - March 3, 2006 01:09 PM (GMT)
Wow, this is incredibly interesting.
And to further support this, the late Pope was polish! Which means that the USSR didn't have a problem ordering his assasination, since they considered him a citizen of the Warsaw Pact...
Cardinal Morales - March 3, 2006 02:02 PM (GMT)
And he was heavily involved with the 'Solidarity' movement.
Sebastien Alexandre - March 8, 2006 12:34 AM (GMT)
While I am glad to see the 'Church' attack what they surely consider a 'pagan' and 'agnostic society', until I see hard-proof evidence, that Turk acted on his own motives, and on those motives alone.
Jacques de Beaufort - March 8, 2006 03:03 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sebastien Alexandre @ Mar 7 2006, 07:34 PM) |
| While I am glad to see the 'Church' attack what they surely consider a 'pagan' and 'agnostic society', until I see hard-proof evidence, that Turk acted on his own motives, and on those motives alone. |
I beg your pardon, when did anyone here said that the Church pointed out the USSR's connection to the assasination attempt on the late Pope. If you read carefully what was written in the original post, it was an italian parliamentary comission that did the investigations. And even Italy is a predominantly Catholic Country, I doubt that all the members of the comission were catholic. And even if they were, it was conducted as an investigation of the Italian State, not of the Vatican State.
Plus, here is a quote of the original post, I hope you find it interesting that they were not investigating the assasination attemp on the Pope, but rather a series of events of the Cold War, with information form an ex-KGB member.
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| The findings came from a commission set up to investigate Cold War secrets revealed by Vasili Mitrokhin, a KGB archivist who defected to the UK in 1992. |
Ohh.. and for your information:
1. Pagans believe in many gods
2. Agnostics don't care about god, for them God may or may not exist.
3. Atheists believe that God does not exist.
So you see the church does not consider an openly communist country to be pagan and agnostic, but plain and openly atheist as they themselves have declared in countless ocassions. So before attacking the Church you might as well educate yourself on what the Church does or does not belive or at least on what your attack is going to be based.
Sincerely,
Sebastien Alexandre - March 9, 2006 02:27 AM (GMT)
Actually, if I am correct (which I very much so believe I am), a Pagan, Aetheist, and Agnostic, are all, by the Christian stand point, someone who does not believe in God.
Perhaps, you should stop assaults on those who have done nothing but branch out from the long claw of the Pope of the catholic church?
Jacques de Beaufort - March 9, 2006 12:42 PM (GMT)
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| Actually, if I am correct (which I very much so believe I am), a Pagan, Aetheist, and Agnostic, are all, by the Christian stand point, someone who does not believe in God. |
I am sorry to say that you are wrong. And I am not saying this just because I want to fight with you, but because I believe that I am entitled to say things with the certainty that the fact that I have had a strong catholic formation for the entirety of my life (almost 20 years) has given me. Also having 3 priest uncles, 3 nun aunts, 1 bishop uncle, 3 bishop friends, and one late great uncle in the process of canonization, might give you a view of how my family is very closely related to Church affairs, and where it is that my knowledge on these matters comes from.
Sincerely,
Pete James - March 9, 2006 03:20 PM (GMT)
Sorry mate your wrong, the Church is right on this matter.
Jacques de Beaufort - March 10, 2006 03:10 AM (GMT)
Thank you Pete!
BTW..love the quote on your sig.
Sincerely,