Title: Statement from the Curia
Jacques de Beaufort - February 28, 2006 10:08 PM (GMT)

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Statement from the Curia
Regarding the intentions of some Parliament members in providing the nation with legislation regarding the following issues:
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The Church wishes to express its view: The Church does not have official comments on the first two options. On all of the following the Church expresses its strongest opossition to any laws that encourage or include these subject. Cloning, Gene Splicing, and Stem Cell Research should be abandoned and banned for good. We cannot permit these aberrations to happen in our beloved Empire. And for the record we will do our best to have abortions prohibited. The killing of an inocent defenceless, son of God, is totally insane, immoral, and what is worse is murder.
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Thierry Mareu - March 1, 2006 04:34 AM (GMT)
While I understand that the Pope and the Magisterium condemn cloning and stem cell research from aborted cells, has the larger Church condemned genetic engineering on animals and plants, as this statement does? I'm just curious, because in my Catholic education I realized it was never mentioned.
Jacques de Beaufort - March 1, 2006 11:51 PM (GMT)
Yes Mr. Mareu, tha larger Church also condemns cloning and stem cell research.
Sincerely,
Thierry Mareu - March 2, 2006 01:16 AM (GMT)
Right. But what is the opinion on genetic engineering in general? It has been my experience that there is no argument about improving the resistances and virility of plants and animals, especially in regards to alleviating Third World hunger and famines.
Matthieu Poiters - March 2, 2006 02:37 PM (GMT)
good argument Cardinal is it possible to answer them? i too am interesed in what the church thinks about all this.
PM.Poiters. Serving Alexandria. Again.
Jacques de Beaufort - March 2, 2006 04:06 PM (GMT)
The Church has no problem with genetic engineering with plants.
Now with animals is a different thing. If God made certian animals best suited for a certain environment, and specially resistent to certain disseases then so be it, we should not try to make our own species.
There is a slippery slope between what's right and wrong in genetics, You don't want to find yourself going down the wrong side.
Sicnerely,
Pete James - March 2, 2006 04:15 PM (GMT)
I thank the church for there concern in this matter, and would like everyone to understand that the legislation I am to propose shall be a difficult one to draft. Obviously no everyone shall be pleased wholey with the final draft, myself included.
Faithfully,
Pete James
HIH Prince Enrique Portela - March 3, 2006 08:00 PM (GMT)
Splendid. Now the Church has answered everything. :D
Sebastien Alexandre - March 8, 2006 12:31 AM (GMT)
While, the church of Alexandria may find this... an 'abomination' to God, it is unfortunate to note that under the Constitution of Alexandria, in it's latest version, every Alexandrian citizen is entitled to any information the Alexandrian State and it's people have to offer, provided that it does not hinder national security, or stability of the Government.
To that, by the Constitution itself, I, and others like-minded citizens like myself, are entitled to any information we wish to see that does not involve something dangerous to stability of our fair nation. By that, I am entitled to information on stem cell research, and will very much so enact my right to that information.
I also question as to whether the private, pass word protected fora in this Church contains matters of utmost Security to the state. For, if not, I do believe that violates my right o any and all available information in Alexandria.
Monsieur Sebastien Alexandre,
Jacques de Beaufort - March 8, 2006 02:56 AM (GMT)
Everybody is entitled to have their own opinion and view of matters, noone is against that, and everyone is allowed to share certain information, noone is against that either.
By the Statement released by the Curia, we mean to show the citizens that the Church is against stem cell research and other practices that in our point of view go against nature. We also mean to tell the Alexandrian public that we will do our best to prevent those things from happening. Never did we say that it should be banned to believe in those things, we too put a great emphasis in the freedom of speech, believes, and religion.
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I also question as to whether the private, pass word protected fora in this Church contains matters of utmost Security to the state. For, if not, I do believe that violates my right o any and all available information in Alexandria.
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Regarding the password-protected forums of the Curia, you say that you would like to access them or that you would like for us to share whatever we have written in there. The Catholic Church of Alexandria is no Secret Society nor has it any intention of doing anything that may endanger this our beloved country. However, we are entitled to debate things relating to the Church without all the public being able to see. In the forum we draft the statements, until we elect a final one; we agree on the possition the Church will take on certain issues; and most important of all we are writing a compendium of faith that we will not release until it is finished. We are entitled to have that privacy, or are you against the right to privacy, and so are many other institutions in this Empire, such as Ministries, Political Parties, etc. Again, We are just exercising our right of privacy.
Sincerely,
Sebastien Alexandre - March 9, 2006 02:24 AM (GMT)
If the church truly is about freedom of opinions, and speech, wh y would it stop something that in my opinion should be implemented? Surely, it is a choice that once information is out, you can read it or not? Just ebcause something is out there doesn't mean you are forced to learn it, so what would it hurt for this research could continue?
And the same of your private fora could be said of the Parliament, and every Political party, yet we do not hide behind secret walls, now do we?
Jacques de Beaufort - March 9, 2006 12:35 PM (GMT)
Mr. Alexandre,
The Church like every other institution is entitled to manage its affairs as it pleases. There is no secret planning or conspiracy going on in the Curia, it is only the administrative organism of the Church, and there as I told you we discuss how best to write the statements we release, and we plan our sermons. So, now really why don't you worry about things that really matter instead of trying to make a senseless case against everything the Church does. If you are not catholic the don't pay attetion to us, and if you are then stop trying to make the church look as though we were hiding something.
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| If the church truly is about freedom of opinions, and speech, wh y would it stop something that in my opinion should be implemented? Surely, it is a choice that once information is out, you can read it or not? Just ebcause something is out there doesn't mean you are forced to learn it, so what would it hurt for this research could continue? |
We are in favour of the freedom of expression and opinion. And as much as it is your opinion that you are entitled to learn about these procedures, it is our opinion that nobody should because they ARE an abomination. We are merely trying to keep things rolling within what is right accoding to human nature and according to our believes, and they are against stem cell research, abortion, gene splicing, and cloning. We have nothing further to add to the fact that we will work to prevent the Empire from carrying out these horrible practices. And if you think that it should then you do your thing and let us do our.
Sincerely,