This is the final text of the Carta Magna of the province of Asunción. It was passed by the people, and confirmed by the Minister of Interior of His Majesty's Government. So Congratulations people, we have a provincial Government!!!

God has no place in Government. Why have you got any role to play in this province's Government set up?

I'm sure His Holiness the Pope would not condone any Cardinal taking part in Government.

Bertrand,

You really should stop from making snap judgements. You should also know your history. The church has been involved with governments of several nations. In Germany before it was united, they had there own little Duchies (or there equivalent).

Besides, it has been in the best interest of Alexandria that I served the government before I became a Cardinal, and even after that I still served the government without anyone complaining about it, you and Miss Douay are the only ones making a fuss about it. And if I recall correctly, it was her with her previous party that suggested that the State and the Church should allways be one. She was the strongest fighter for the non-separation of the State and the Church. Now with her totally new personality, she has found it entertaining to attack and accuse everyone that does not think like her of being against true democracy. And for this I raise a question: Is true democracy the form of government where only the ones that think like Miss Douay have any power, or will she and the Alexandrian Pride Party ever stop attacking everybody and actually tryin to make some good for this nation?

LONG LIVE THE EMPEROR EDGARD II!!!!

Sincerely,

I know my history and the Vatican didn't have any duchies in pre-unification Germany. Don't try and lecture me when you don't know what you are talking about.

We are trying to make good! We are trying to make this nation more democratic but the seeds of corruption are deep and people are resistant to any change!

I'm sorry, but I do know what I'm talking about. They might not have been called Duchies, but they were equivalent little states like I stated. Plus, what about the Papal States or are you overlooking at as well? Please quit being insulting to people.

What corruption? What resistant to change? The only person I am seeing is you, good sir.

Nicholas Bertrand,

Unfortunately because we can only assume what the Pope may or may not think and, what perspective the Vatican may or may not take on the Cardinal's involvement I guess there cannot be a great deal of discussion about it. If you wanted to start a separate debate elsewhere abotu theology and governments I'm sure other people may be interested. I don't think that this thread is the best place to start as it relates to a different central topic.

On a personal level the Cardinal's involvement in anything in this Empire is welcomed due to the hard-working nature he displays and his long-standing activity shown within the nation. Lets first judge him on his personal merits as opposed to anything else.

Excuse my interjection but I feel that, in the Emperor's absense, it was appropriate for me to say something.

Thank you,

Lord Leclerc,
Your comments are welcome as always, and as always, Bertrand's are out of place.

By the way, you are not obligated to believe in our provincial government, you are not a resident here, so please refrain from posting your points of view around here, it might not be prohibited, that is true, but nobody cares 'bout it.

Don't you have a job boy? something to keep you busy instead of wondering radical ideas...

Thank you Lord Leclerc for the kind words, they are greatly appreciated!!

Mr Bertrand: What are you talking about? You know the city of Salzburg, I suppose... well let me tell you that for centuries that city (and its surrounding) where ruled by a Bishop, he ad many residences, one of which is the famous Hohensalzburg Fortress. And Salzburg was just one of many! ... So there you go...

Sincerely,

And the Vatican later stopped it's clergy standing in Mayoral or Government positions.