Carta Magna of Asunción

1. The Government of Asunción will seat in the city of Ávila.

2. The Government in Asunción will have no division of executive, legislative or judicial powers.

3. All three powers will be held by the Governmental Council of Asunción.

4. The Council will be presided by the Head of Council.

5. The Head of Council will be the Archduke of Asunción.

6. The Council will also have four Members of Council , which along with the Head of Council manage the government of the province.

7. The Council will pass laws and resolutions, and can also act as a first instance Court.

8. The Representative of the Province of Asunción before the Imperial Parliament for that sole reason will have the right for voice, but not for vote on the Governmental Council.

9. The Members of the Governmental Council are elected by direct ballot by the people of Aunción, with the excemption of one, appointed at his discretion by His Excellency, the Archduke.

I move to begin voting on this draft immediately.
Option are:
YES
NO
ABSTAIN
Remeber that only citizens of the province of Asunción can vote on this draft for our Carta Magna (provincial constitution).

YES is my vote!!!!!

NO

Miss Fabiola,

I would very much like to hear what you have to say on this draft, I am not saying that you can't vote the way you did, I just want to know your opinion point by point. Maybe we can do this in your office, and leave this topic just for the vote.

To the others,
Please proceed to cast your vote regarding the Carta Magna.

Many thanks,

Before I vote, can we ammend the following Your Eminence?

I believe that the Representative should be a part of the Council, even more, I believe that for that sole reason, he/she should be automatically a member of it.

Opinions?

Well i suposse that the representative can be a member of Council, but we should make him an advisor member that is with right of voice but not of vote, otherwise, the representative would hold too much power with himself.

Note: Male gender used for simplifying purposes.

What about this, whoever is elected to Minister of the Parliament for our Duchy will automatically be a member of the Council, but will not have the right to vote, only for voice, unless he/she was already member of the Council at the time of the election.

More or less the same thing you proposed.

The thing is that even though you proposal is good, as we are only four, of which only three are really active, the elected representative would always be a member of the council before he/she becomes a representative, that's why it wouldn't work for the time being....maybe later on, once more citizens have settled in the provionce we can ammend it to what you proposed...

What say you?

I agree my friend.
Now just make the ammendments as agreed and we shall vote again.

Change art. 8-The Representative of the Province of Asunción before the Imperial Parliament for that sole reason will have the right for voice, but not for vote on the Governmental Council.

And art. 9 The Members of the Governmental Council are elected by direct ballot by the people of Aunción, with the excemption of one, appointed at his discretion by His Excellency, the Archduke.

If that is OK, let me know to put this to vote.

They seem good to me.

As writer of this draft I move to begin the vote immediately.

My vote is YES

Cast your votes people...

YES

How long should we wait to close the votings?
I have sent a PM to the fourth resident Alexandre Berthier, to ask him to come and participate.

I vote YES.

My friends, I see no need to wait for the fourth vote.

If you agree, we can declare this enacted.

Enacted locally - but it may need some national recognition. I will inform Parliament.

Enacted is enough, this our Duchy and we can do whatever we want as long as it doesn't interfere with Imperial Laws.

But yes, it would be good to let everyone know.

Can I remind you that this Province is still under the jurisdiction of the Imperial Parliament. You can't just do as you please. If the Imperial Parliament passes a law to disregard this 'Carta Magna' then you'll be bound to it - just as you are bound to every law the Imperial Parliament makes. You have local council here - you don't have autonomy. What you are talking of is an independant state - not a province.

You need to temper your statements.

Ohh, please!!! don't start again, why in the world would the Parliament pass a law againt or voiding our Carta Magna?

Just let'em know we are organizing our Provincial Gov't and that is it, I will inform the Ministry of Interior.

Now, let's get to more important issues, let's organize the Council and our roles on it, OK?

I shall start again Sr Benavides - and I will continue until this province and this country has democracy. Parliament would void this Carta Magna when it realised that by its enactment - it had in fact put you in the role of a Monarch and the province in a state of total independance. You should remember that your title is merely a courtesy given by the Emperor - it doesn't denote any power over this province. This talk of being a provincial Head of State is ridiculous - name me one country in the world that employs that system? I am the Member of Parliament here and I am the one to inform the appropriate authorities - it is time you knew your place.

There are more important issues than democracy? It's laughable.

I smell megalomania!!

And the smell is rife Sr Bertrand. Our so-called 'Archduke' is taking his title a little too seriously. He seems to be behaving like an Emperor rather than serving the one he so often defends as divine.

What has he done for this Province?

He was merely granted a title by the Emperor and now he thinks he is "head of State"?? It is you who has actually done something for this Province!

But remember Sr Bertrand - we APP members are all traitors because we show the corruption and farcical manner in which this Empire is governed.

Ok, I am gonna give you one more chance to wake up your brain from hibernation,
the Count is the head of the County,
the Duke is in charge of the Duchy,
the King is head of the Kingdom,
the Emperor is the head of the Empire,

Please read Art II (2) on the Territorial Entities Act

And maybe you are based on the Federalism Act, Art II (2)

But none of them have been enacted, those are bills, this means we are not subject to any of these.

You're going to give me one more chance? Or you'll do what? Is that a direct thread towards a Member of Parliament? A representative of the people? Was that what you were appointed to do?

You're not in charge of anything - your title is a courtesy title pertaining to a piece of land. It has no actual power attached. Or are you actually a member of the Royal Family? I thought you were a mere flunky.

The pice of land you are talking about is the Duchy of Asunción, it does have power attached, and from now on I suggest you address me correctly.

And I am not threating you, paranoid.

The Duchy of Asunción has a power attached that is vested in the Member of Parliament.

I will not address you as anything other than Sr Benavides and I suggest you get used to that. Funny, when I'm told by people, "I have one more chance", there's usually a 'or else' attached.

You hold no power other than prepairing bills and presenting those at the Parliament, and enjoy, because your term is coming to an end soon, and believe it, you are not going back to the Parliament as our representative.

After all, the authorities and powers you think (or invent) are vested in you will vanish after next elections, and I will remain Archduke.

You may remain as Archduke for a few months more. Once the APP is in Parliament, your days as an appointed governor are at an end. Your title won't protect you from progress. The APP will be gaining more support and democracy is coming. We have given people a taste of what they could have under a democracy.

Your days as a tin-pot dictator are drawing to a close. I can be re-elected. But under the APP new system there will be no place for a useless aristocracy.

Useless aristocracy???
Re-elected?

You have gone out of your mind, you are the one that has delusions of grandure.

And what exactly is the APP planning to do against Asunción and it's government, I am not if your nuts ideas will ever get the Imperial assent.

The Emperor will give his assent to any bill the Imperial Parliament passes or he will find his services are no longer required.

Wow, are you threating the Emperor now?

Are you stating that if the Emperor doesn't agree with your nuts ideas is no longer useful?

What are your plans is this happen?

Our ideas are nuts because they threaten your privelaged position? The Emperor has a duty to listen to his people. When MPs pass legislation in Parliament, they are doing so as representatives of the people. If the Emperor refuses his assent then he is refusing the people progress. In that case, the Emperor will be dispensed with.

But you are not representing the people.

Really?? and has that authority?

THE PEOPLE.

You are all on borrowed time. The people of this nation are fed up with living under a grossly privelaged upper class who are only out to cry of their loyalty to an Emperor who obviously has no regard for democracy or he wouldn't have appointed you and your similar cronies.

Look, just in case you missed it.

The people has so much power, but it doesn't support you ideas.

Hey enough...stop it you both...
You're getting on my nerves. We will deal with the issues one by on here:

1. Yes, Mr. Benavides is the Archduke of Asunción.
2. No, he is never in the Carta Magna reffered to as the Head of State, but as the Head of Council, completelly different things.
3. Yes, the Parliament should be let know that a new provincial government is in order.
4. Yes, Parliament may, at its discretion choose to shut down this government. Fortunately, they have not chosen to do so.
5. Yes, we are allowed to pass a law as this Carta Magna, as stated in the Imperial Constitution.
6. No, we do not attack each otheron stupid accounts.
7. Yes, Both Mr. Benavides and Miss Douay, have done good things for this province, Monsieur Bertrand, both of them!
8. No, I haven't seen you around much, but that is of no importance, you are a resident of this province and I respect your views and your person. I hope that in the future we will be able to do great things.
9. No, we do not (I mean the whole of the nation) want to see you two (Mr. Benavides and Miss Douay) fight all the time.
10. Yes, it is true that Miss Douay is in the political opposittion, and for that we cogratulate her: "Your are very brave, we praise your courage, your convition, and your independence of ideas"
11. YES, ALL ASUNCIONERS WANT TO SEE THIS ONE BECOME A GREAT PROVINCE WITHIN THIS EMPIRE, LET US NOT LET SOME SMALL DISAGREEMENTS KILL THIS POSSIBILITY.

I don't mean with this short speech to sound as an authority, I am merely expressing my opinion on some issues, and also I am explaining to you why some things are doable without this meaning that we disreagrd the Parliament's authority. But we are clearly enabled by a series of lws and the Constitution to form a government without this being disrispectfull of the national one. IT IS A PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT THAT WILL DO EVERYTHING THAT IT IS ASKED FROM IT BY THE IMPERIAL GOVERNMENT, AS WELL AS TAKE SOME PROVINCIAL ACTIONS, (concerning only the province), WITHOUT HAVING TO ASK FOR THE PERMISSION OF THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT, AND THAT IS NOT DISRAGRING ITS AUTHORITY, BUT MERELY EXCERCISING THE PROVINCE'S RIGHT TO GEVRN ITSELF ON THE PROVINCIAL LEVEL BUT STILL BINDING ITSELF TO THE EMPIRE.

I hope this clears your views.

With the hope of being a part of this province with all of you in it.

Sincerely,

Now as I, Mr. Benavides and Miss Douay have vote YES on the Carta Magna. I suppose that we can declare it passed. And ask that the Emperor grant us a Forum to house our Governmental Council. We are only four of us who reside in this province, so we are all in the Council (strange huh...lol).