Title: Proposal : The Speaker Act
Fabiola Douay - December 1, 2005 03:56 PM (GMT)
The Speaker Act
I propose this act on behalf of the people;
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The Speaker Act
To ensure the fairness and impartiality of the Speaker
1. That the Speaker of this Imperial Parliament be politically impartial;
2. That he may not belong to any one party and that he will not have a vote in the ballot held on bills of law;
3. That the Speaker must stick carefully to a prescribed course of action where the introduction, debate and passing of bills in concerned;
4. That the Speaker must not offer an opinion within the Imperial Parliament in keeping with clause 1 of this act ;
5. That the Speaker must not be a member of any political party in keeping with clause 1 of this act ;
6. This Act shall become law upon recieving the Emperor's Assent |
Fabiola Douay - December 1, 2005 04:07 PM (GMT)
It is abundantly clear that although the final assent should rest with the Emperor it does not. The Speaker of the Imperial Parliament could be responsible for giving the deciding vote to a bill of law. I ask the honourable members of this Parliament if that is right? If the Speaker is of the political persuasion of the Government then the Government could have a free hand in passing their bills. The Speaker should be politically impartial - presiding over the proceedings of this Parliament and not offering his opinions or submitting a vote. To do so would make a mockery, not only of the debate procedure itself, but of the Imperial Assent which I see as no longer being given by the Emperor but being given by the Speaker. I urge all members of this Parliament to support this bill to ensure the fair workings of this Parliament.
Jean Michel Leclerc - December 1, 2005 04:42 PM (GMT)
This kind of thing should be in the Constitution not an act of parliament. Consider revising it into such a format. I feel the speaker should be connected to th articles about the construct of the Parliament.
Fabiola Douay - December 1, 2005 04:51 PM (GMT)
Thankyou My Lord. I agree that it should be a part of the constitution and so I will ammend this accordingly.
Fabiola Douay - December 19, 2005 09:31 PM (GMT)
I put this bill forward for immediate voting.
UAI Advocate - December 20, 2005 12:05 AM (GMT)
Notice: In the following post, I use the male gender for the purpose of simplicity.
I feel that if Alexandria and her people truly wish to have a Democratic Parliament, part of that has to be allowing those acting as Speaker to have party ties as they see fit. Trying to force the Speaker to be politically neutral is bordering on impossible. Let's think about this for a moment.
Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE has political leanings. Even if they dont know what politics are, they have leanings. My 3-year old daughter would be quickly categorised as a Libertarian if she were of voting age, based on her acts and beliefs. Nobody, regardless of what they might claim, can possibly be politically impartial.
If you remove the Speaker's ability to provide opinions, then the title itself of "Speaker" becomes a misnomer, since he's not even really allowed to speak! As the leader of the Legislature, his opinions should be sought, not shunned.
If you want to take away the Speaker's power to cast a deciding vote, you are going to need to make a concession for the eventuality of a tie. If not the Speaker, then WHO would cast a deciding vote in the case of a tie? This needs to be addressed.
Fabiola Douay - December 20, 2005 05:56 PM (GMT)
Then we don't call him a Speaker.
Everyone has political leanings - agreed. It is simple - it is unfair and undemocratic for a Speaker to behave like a Member of Parliament. Of Course, in this case, the Speaker IS a glorified Member of Parliament. And that isn't right.
In the event of a tie, the Bills of Law go to national referendum - in RL it wouldn't work but in Alexandria it will. It is democratic - it gives the people the chance to approve bills and it's not left to a Speaker who can give his vote to either party when it suits him. It's too much power for one man to have and it defeats the object of having a Parliament.
The Speaker should merely keep order, introducing bills, putting them to vote and announcing them passed. I find this idea of him being able to cast a deciding vote ridiculous. It needs to be changed.
Jacques de Beaufort - December 20, 2005 11:14 PM (GMT)
Note: The following comment doesn't reffer to a Speaker in particular.
Well, Miss Douay, if that is what you want then, maybe in the bill you introduced "The Speaker Act" you should say that the Speaker is to be chosen form people that are not already in Parliament, cause if you choose a Member of Parliament to become Speaker and then you take away his right to vote and speak then why would anyone want to become Speaker.
So I say, choose a Speaker from the people, not the members of Parliament, once you do this all your claims can come true.
Jacques de Beaufort - December 21, 2005 12:00 AM (GMT)
Note: This will be my last reply in this halls, unless invited to speak.
And it is because i have found, i believe a solution to this Speaker problem, and it was right under our noses in the Constitution.
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Article 20 [Speaker] The Speaker of the Parliament has the duty to organize Parliament’s agenda and to recognize all proposals put before the house by its members. The body must elect a Speaker by majority vote before proceeding to other business. |
As the article says: the Speaker is elected by majority vote. And all his duties are to organize the Parliament's agenda. So my proposition is that the Speaker be a member of Parliament with equal rights and responsabilities as any other member of parliament, but with an extra duty, that of organising Parliament's agenda. It is really not that difficult. he debates, votes, like any normal MP would, but he is the person to whom proposal are submitted, he is the one that calls for vote and that announces the passing of a law. His extra duties are purely organizational, nothing more, no deciding vote, his vote is like any other MP's vote, and no special powers.
I believe that this would make things more simple, and avoid us from having another governmental possition.
What do you think?
UAI Advocate - December 21, 2005 12:03 PM (GMT)
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| So my proposition is that the Speaker be a member of Parliament with equal rights and responsabilities as any other member of parliament, but with an extra duty, that of organising Parliament's agenda. |
I agree with you, Your Eminence. Your proposal certainly seems to be a fair compromise.
Matthieu Poiters - December 21, 2005 03:32 PM (GMT)
i am in agreement with his Eminence on this - Excuse me Madame but i dont think you were elected speaker here so you cannot say when we vote or not.
Add these amendments in to your bill Madame.
Thank you,
PM.Poiters. Serving Alexandria.
Fabiola Douay - December 21, 2005 03:44 PM (GMT)
Excuse me Prime Minister but I was alerting the Speaker that I wished the bill to go for an immediate vote as I believe is the procedure.
Do not order me to add these ammendments because I don't find these ammendments at all acceptable and the Alexandrian Pride Party will not have any part in introducing them into a bill that actually does the job it's intended to as it stands. But then again, what would the Prime Minister know of introducing legislation seeing as he hasn't put anything before this Parliament for weeks.
In future, kindly refrain from ordering me about.